tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683546417186768820.post65676319515898231..comments2021-02-13T04:51:17.282-05:00Comments on Nth Wave Feminism: PENIS MOM HAHA BECAUSE MOMS DON'T HAVE PENISES!Kyriehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01488063301300315710noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683546417186768820.post-8095834764266909952011-12-28T13:16:19.563-05:002011-12-28T13:16:19.563-05:00This is excellent. And I am immensely intrigued by...This is excellent. And I am immensely intrigued by the concept of the male/powerful mimicking or "stepping down" to the feminine/weak. I use stepping down not as an insult, but more to allude to the old patriarchal family heirs "stepping down" from head of the household/throne etc. And in alluding to the above, attempt to highlight how archaic shit like that is.<br />Part of my intrigue in this is I am a heterosexual guy who has little desire in getting dirty/fixing or building things, and intentionally makes friends with people who can do these things....;)<br />Also, I have no idea what a fucking trébuchet is, let alone how to help build one, let alone how to build one with my penis. It sounds painful.<br />But I can say from personal experience that I have seen gender lines blurred. I am a straight guy who doesn't like football or basketball, I'm a vegetarian-fucking hate hunting and would ban every single gun in this country if I could, I like cooking-though I'm shit at it, I'm an atheist and a marxist and I really like soccer (admittedly, not all of these are "gender" traits, but it's used to illustrate that I'm not a "man's man" (I just threw up in my mouth a little typing that)). I use myself as as an example so as not to co-opt the experiences of others, not because I am in any way a victim of anything. <br />What I am getting at is that I think traditional gender roles are already being blurred. Slightly. Slowly. Kind of on the dl. Or excused with the "yeah but s/he..." And these blurrings can have terrible outcomes. But, given that I do think they occur more regularly than is presented in "the public sphere," I think it a good jumping off point to beginning to eradicate gender binary thinking. Holding up whatever blurred lines there are to the light and attempting to show that, already, things do not fall along conventional gender lines.<br />Maybe worth a shot? I've kind of become disillusioned with my own point in the process of writing this. Sorry, as always, for my ramblings.Alex Seelighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11380511351958738740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683546417186768820.post-80260042071714991862011-12-21T16:15:06.237-05:002011-12-21T16:15:06.237-05:00Jess, I'd love to sit down and talk about Fine...Jess, I'd love to sit down and talk about Fine's book with you when I'm done reading it. I've been meaning to read it for a while, but these days any recreational reading gets sidelined until break weeks... <br /><br />And I'd love to hear your thoughts on the gender bullying piece, so I'll keep my fingers crossed that you can find time to write about it. :)A.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09259873004871365028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683546417186768820.post-6523097502664189042011-12-21T16:04:56.983-05:002011-12-21T16:04:56.983-05:00Thanks, y'all!
I liked a lot of the stuff in ...Thanks, y'all!<br /><br />I liked a lot of the stuff in that Rethinking Schools piece you link to, AJ. I had a couple minor "eh" moments with it, but maybe I'll write about them another time. :)<br /><br />And that's all we can do, you know? Figure out what we don't know? I'm interested in your thoughts about Fine's book, I haven't had a chance to read it yet.Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03275971301824881125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683546417186768820.post-69805459892920118622011-12-21T15:58:46.661-05:002011-12-21T15:58:46.661-05:00There's a lot of thought-provoking stuff in th...There's a lot of thought-provoking stuff in this post, thank you! Between this post, my current break book (Delusions of Gender), and the post I read yesterday about gender bullying in classrooms (http://togetherforjacksoncountykids.tumblr.com/post/14314184651/one-teachers-approach-to-preventing-gender-bullying-in), I feel more educated, but also like I know less about the root of/solution to the problem than I thought I did. So you know, kind of like every day of grad school for me. ;)A.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09259873004871365028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3683546417186768820.post-50111869156140958632011-12-21T15:45:29.179-05:002011-12-21T15:45:29.179-05:00"Also: I find it's much easier for us to ..."Also: I find it's much easier for us to get all up in arms about this kind of thing than it would be when dads are excluded from shit dealing with baking or whatever. You know? It's more acceptable for the weak to mimic the powerful than the other way around. I want to see this level of outrage around men not getting invited to after-school sewing shit and boys who want to wear dresses and whatever."<br /><br />GREAT POINT. <br /><br />Now people with more thought-provoking and intelligent things to say, please comment. ;)Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222615379307678907noreply@blogger.com